Game Thread: April 25, Braves at Marlins
As I've mentioned I'm in an APBA keeper league. It's pretty deep, 20 teams, 40-man rosters. Anyway, I usually lose so in last year's draft I decided that I'd just take Braves because if I'm going to lose I might as well lose with players I'm rooting for. I took McCann with the ninth pick in the first round and also took KJ and McBride.
So it actually worked out pretty well and my team is suddenly a contender, so I went back to my "when in doubt, pick a Brave" strategy this year. Only this time I wound up with Paronto and Kali. Hm.
Langernote: In case you didn't know, Baseball-Reference is updating during the season now. Here's the Braves page. Note that Langerhans has an OPS+ of negative thirty. Sweet Jesus.
No video today, slow connection.
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posted by Mac @ 4/25/2007 10:58:00 AM
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183 Comments:
On the bright side, Hudson's ERA+ is 627.
Wilson's pretty bad. 26 OPS+. Diaz isn't that much better: 43 OPS+.
Also, label me as someone who loves B-Ref, and I'm even happier this year that they've got in-season season compiling.
in-season stats* compliling.
I wouldn't put langerhans on waivers. he would still be a decent defensive 4th outfielder. He isn't really starter good but he isn't as bad as he has been this last 20 games or so. Bobby has almost infinite patience, see Mondesi, Jordan, but at some point in time he is going to have to make a lineup change. LF and 1B shouldn't be a drag on your offense.
Johnny
Thorman had a good game last night. He needs to play more.
I know this is kinda useless, but imagine if the Braves still had Giles. He is doing really good like I figured. Imagine that with KJ in LF. That leaves no weaknesses other than the need for another starting pitcher (which is really our biggest need as far as I'm concerned).
The Mets are losing, 6-0 in the bottom of the 3rd. Mike Pelfrey just got pulled after giving up a 3-run homer to John Mabry.
Tim Hudson is now the league leader in ERA(0.62) now that Rich Hill got shelled last night by the Brewers. The next closest is Brad Penny with 1.37.
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9-0 now.
So...Josh Fogg, the Rockies PITCHER has as many hits through 4 innings as Langerhans has all season...
10-0 Rockies, haha!
lando
Langerhans is going to turn it around. I can feel it. :)
So, our pitching could definitely be better right now. The Mets have a 133 team ERA+, and the Braves only have 117. But, the Braves are much younger, so I like our future.
So where do you think we'd be with Marcus Giles still in our lineup at 2nd base (he has a .338 average and .375 OBP). That would have put KJ in left field and in leadoff. We would almost certainly be tops in most offensive categories. Ahh, the things we must do for money...
Who is more major league-ready HITTING wise...Salty or Brandon Jones?
Also, why are they so reluctant to let Salty spend a little time at 1B?
Salty's worth more to us at catcher than anywhere else. The more time Salty spends at C, the higher his trade value. His trade value took a hit last year; he's been doing a good job building it back up, but he'll have to convince people he's legit.
As soon as other major league clubs believe he's a legitimate major league hitter who plays catcher, we'll be able to get a very, very nice return for him. This would be more valuable than simply playing him at 1B and hoping he'd outhit LaRoche's 2006, which at his age isn't at all guaranteed.
We are reluctant to move Salty to 1st right now because it would hurt his trade value - if that be what the Braves ultimately decide to do with him. Also, they don't want to bring him to the majors because he needs to get at bats every day - platooning him just wouldn't be able to accomplish that task.
good point about trying to increase Salty's trade value...can't help but imagine the possiblity of a trade involving him to TB...for...CARL CRAWFORD.
Also, I'd like to see us call up Brandon Jones at some point this season (a la Charles Thomas) a couple years ago to see what he can do and how he fits into our long term plans esp. since Andruw is probably not comin' back.
Bamachum,
I couldn't agree with you more.
FREE CARL CRAWFORD and BRANDON JONES
Or we could trade for... Rocco Baldelli!
Either one would be fine...but i'd still prefer Crawford. ;)
Or we could trade for... Rocco Baldelli!
Yay! Another OBP sinkhole who can't take a walk!
I think the incredible two-header catcher is still the best bet. Alternate days Salty C/McCann 1B, McCann C/Salty 1B.
This just in:
Jarrod Saltalamacchia hit his fifth and sixth homers Tuesday for Double-A Mississippi.
Salatamacchia hit just .230 with nine homers in 313 at-bats in his first year in the Southern League. As a repeater, he's currently at .379/.471/.776 in 58 at-bats. Whether he's a first baseman with the Braves or a catcher elsewhere, he's going to be a quality major leaguer.
As much as I would like to see Salty playing in a braves uni I think we would get the best return by trading him as a catcher. Great hitting catchers aren't common.
Indeed. It's a nice problem to have. I would love to accomodate both, but Salty's value is highest, obviously, as a catcher. I wonder what in the starting pitching realm he would go for.
I believe Rob just quoted Beck's "Loser", a nominee for our next Langerhans Film Festival.
Since it's pretty much a given that Andruw won't be back in 2008, and since "we'll just slide Langerhans into CF" is a real non-starter right about now, what's the rumor mill saying about center field in the post-Andruw era?
-1 to anyone who answers "Baldelli", BTW.
I don't think we should rush Brandon Jones. No need to start his arbitration clock ticking before he's ready.
I think Salty's barber might have something to say about our CF situation...
But it's not impossible that Francouer gets slotted over there.
havent thought of the alternating of the 2 between 1st and catcher. that's a brilliant idea. lets send that one to scheurholz.
In line with the What if Marcus Giles talk --- what if we signed Glavine last winter. A double whammy since with loss to Mets & our gain. The Mark Redstick experiment would never occurred. That is the game the Sox/NYY play.
Langernuts batting slump is no anomolie. He finished 2006 with an Orrlike .241 BA. You are what you are. When they show the baby braves photo in 2015 - no one will know who the guy is.
I don't think there was enough money for Giles and Glavine.
If it hadn't been for the money tied up Hampton and the hope that he would be able to pitch this year, I would hope we would have signed Tommy Glavine...it sure wouldve been nice to see win #300 in an ATL uniform.
Also, no Rocco Baldelli...all we need is another injury-prone player, with a low OBP. Yes, his potential is great, but potential is a dangerous word and already have enough players where we are still banking on their potential (Jeff, KJ, Davies, Thorman, etc.)
Again, I'll say it...CARL CRAWFORD would look great in a Braves uniform, he's still only 24/25, plus he's possbily the BEST ATHLETE in the world...fwiw.
Mac,
HA! I didn't even notice it.
Guys, the Baldelli thing was a joke. Stu likes Baldelli, but there's this guy that HATES Stu talking about Baldelli. So lately, Stu's been comicly talking about getting Baldelli. There you go. I guess it wasn't funny since I had to explain it.
I don't really want to think about who is going to replace Andruw. I want to savor every moment we have with him in CF. He's the greatest, I couldn't imagine him in another jersey.
Baldi isn't worth it, and the name Claudell Washington keeps appearing when you look at Crawford.
FREE THE CHECKBOOK!
Heh. Just listened to "Loser" by Beck. Funny song, but Beck is weird.
KELLY!!!
Great start!
wow, what a nice start...
KJ is just ridiculously good right now. He's the anti-Langerhans.
Holy smokes. That ball was crushed.
CHIPPER!!!!!
WOW
Olsen looking Redman-esque early on.
SWEET!
Olson strides to first on every pitch. From the windup, anyway, I don't know about the stretch. Looks like a balk.
Huh. Is it a bit odd to anyone else that the Marlins AAA affiliate is all the way in Albuquerque, NM? I guess it works out if they move to San Antonio.
great first by hudson
kelly j is KILLIN it. god bless ya, kid.
i love this guy!
DIAZ!!!
There's another one
DIAZ!!!
Holy hell! This is crazy.
DIAZ is the man
isnt batting practice over?
hudson almost hit that one out
impressive to get out of an inning in 6 pitches including a strikeout. nice work, tim.
Anybody here watch it on MLB.TV and is getting annoyed by the pacman thing during commercials
I like the pacman thing. It's mesmerizing.
Hey, does anyone have a link to listen to the game online? I don't have the home kit to my XM yet...
I always see the Pacman thing during commercials...it amuses me actually..
yea that thing is annoying
Hudson is dealing
Tim Hudson in the second inning this season: 16 PA, 15 AB, 0 H, 1 BB, 7 K.
Wow, I just went to 5 different radio sites, listened to their stations live, and found nothing. One place that said they had it, WGNS, isn't working. Man, I can't catch a break tonight.
Rob, try http://www.640wxsm.com/index.php?page=contact-us
It's worked for me every game this season.
Erin in VT
WAHOOOO! GO ROB! It's on FSN FL which I finally get now that they switched my area from Time Warner to Comcast! Go ROB!
Hey-yo! I get it on TV tonight, and when I don't have the XM (like now), I got a link online. Yay for Rob! Thanks Erin!
Whoa, the Braves are on video right now... live. Wow, I didn't know they did this. This is the first live Braves I've watched in two weeks. I hate ALWAYS working when the games are on TBS. I have bad luck.
Worst. Hit. Ever.
I love that we found a site to get the game from
That was easy.
What number did Kelly Johnson wear in '05? I know it wasn't 2. Was it 27?
C'mon Andruw. Break this game open.
Hat trick by the 5th for Andruw...
Or not.
Saw that coming a mile away
lando
mr. swings @ everything:
It was 27
Maybe Andruw is trying to be terrible this year so that he can stay with the Braves...what a dream!!!
S@E,
A while back didn't u think Chuck James wore a different number than 36?
He did...43, I remember telling you I didn't think he did.
That was me, Jay. I knew I was right dammit!
2 was my number in high school. I never notice major league players' numbers. I do know that Andruw's is 25 and Chipper's is 10, only because it's been drilled in my head for the past 10 years.
Why do i get the feeling that all these stranded baserunners are going to haunt us?
(Alex R. here)
I don't want to jinx it but the $4 I spent on Huddy at my bid draft a few weeks back is the best $4 I ever spent.
Also, I can't seem to get "Alex R." set? I miss the old site.
Hudson is dealin. This is the kinda game I love to watch. Hudson goes 7, Soriano comes in the 8th, Wickman in the 9th. Hopefully we can score a couple more and put it in the hands of Colyer or Moylan.
Not even the legend known as Cody Ross can hit Hudson
It's been a good night at the plate for Langerhans.
Alex, choose "Other" and fill in the information that way.
This should be the last or next-to-last game on Blogger.
What's the deal with Cody Ross? Does he murder Atlanta or something? I remember Mike Redmond for Florida always murdering Tom Glavine.
(Alex R.)
At the beginning of April, I was convinced the most important thing we would need is another bat, say a 1st baseman, heading into the Summer/trade deadline...but, in looking at this team, it maybe a reliable 3rd starter since I am not completely sold that Chuck James can match Huddy and Smoltzie.
To an earlier comment on Glavine, we could have made that happen but I don't want to open a can of worms.
Langerhans is due. He's gonna hit a six-run homer pinch-hitting for Hudson.
I didn't know that James had changed numbers. I haven't seen him pitch on TV yet. I listen to radio about 95% of the time. I wonder why he switched. 43 is a great number. I thought he was shooting for the spot right between Jackie and Hank.
I liked 27 for Johnson too. Someone needed to rehabilitate that number for Atlanta after Lonnie Smith and that walk loving Australian lefty.
Walk loving Australian lefty. Damian Moss?
I agree that this has been one of Langerhans' better games...
thank you! I could picture him in my mind but couldn't get the name.
Jeremy,
Oh ok...sorry bout that.
Wow...Damion Moss. Totally forgot about that guy.
Yeah, I commented on something Alex R. wrote on his 2002 NLCS about Moss. At the time, besides the walk rate, he looked really solid, like a sure thing. Good thing the Braves turned him into Ortiz before he imploded.
Oh good. Glove Boy's in the game.
Anybody know where the Braves are staying in Denver? TIA
Hypothesis: Hudson is throwing a spitter. Discuss.
OK who sucks more Craig Wilson or Ryan Langerhans ???
IIRC, Moss had a no hitter going into the sixth inning against St. Louis and had to be pulled because he had already thrown 120 pitches or something ridiculous like that. I was a fan. It's too bad he flamed out.
Ya know, it might be a good thing Hudson is in the game right now. I wasn't for it earlier. Our bullpen was exhausted last night.
It doesn't sound like a splitter. I bet it's the stout infield defense that's making him look so good.
Spitball, not split-finger fastball. Which I wish they'd just call the forkball it is.
Seeming I have all of Florida's starting infield on one of my fantasy teams....I must be doing really bad right now.
And I couldn't be happier about it.
Hope this works...
Yeah, I am also concerned James might become Moss.
Speaking of starters who started great and then reality set in...Jorge Sosa.
Fun with closed captioning: "Speak to the Zurich number."
Career high, 12 K's. Wow.
Awesome Huddy.
Wow. Hudson is great
All right, Huddy! Wow...this really is the guy we all thought we got from Oakland. I hope he gets the CG SO.
Chucky will be fine. Don't worry Alex. The real concerns are Redman and Davies...
Redman isn't a concern....he's a Doomsday scenario.
I thought there is no chance Langy can lower his BA tonight...I guess not...
Thanks, Joe! "It was the best round of batting practice [Glove Boy] has taken in a week." Wow, a new faint praise record.
Gotta love the consistency of Langy!!!
Ryan's "average" is as microscopic as Hudson's E.R.A
And yes, Langerhans has now inherited the moniker "Glove Boy" from Vinny Castilla, who at least played a position were defense matters.
I take you won't like the Langerhans jersey I got for your next B-day Mac....
I hope Hudson can get them all here now. He's on a short leash with Wickman up, and he just let the lead-off man on.
Okay, it's Wickmania Time.
heh, if furcal's at shortstop then thats a DP
Wickman doesn't get up...the earth just goes down a bit.
I just said "double play ball" as he hit that, but then I realized it was Renteria, not Furcal.
Speaking of Furcal, THT.com had Furcal in their discussion of potential Hall of Fame NL position players. I dunno if I see it...
Renty has the range of a dead penguin.
It might be time to get Wickman ready, unfortunately.
ok, it's a gamble I never liked. Let's get our closer out there when we finally have a bullpen.
NO!!!
You can't wait. You can't let them get the tying run on in this situation. They could potentially win on a homer or tie on a single and a DP.
Wickmania time... nice night Hudson. Hopefully Wickman can hold it.
Time for Wick
All pitches are UP. Get Huddy out!!!
Standing "O" for Hudson no matter what happens.
Wickamania!
Great. We're going to lose.
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Leaving in Hudson too long... sounds like last year.
Infield in; this could be the game.
wick-baby say it ain't so!
.............
That's it....
Man, I really wish Hudson had only gone 8, instead of 8+.
two runs in and possibly a third! ouch, that hurts huddy's ERA...not to mention our chances to win
Thanks Bobby. THis one is one you.
Oh damn...
Who cares about his ERA? I just want a win right now...
I'm having flashbacks of '06
It's over. This really hurts.
Big out.
It's not over yet.
YES!!!!!
it ain't over til that fatman loses!
what a pitch...
####!
Tie game on an effing dying quail. My goodness...
What is with baseball's infatuation with the complete game?
ha ha, another play furcal could have possibly made.
These are the situations we got Wickman for.
If we can't pull this off, I just might cry.
This is game reminds me of a 06' Smoltz.
Since I am also a SPURS fan, I officially have no nails on my hand.
And this one is on Bobby. I am sick.
Just get though the inning, we can get em if we get a chance to hit.
my god!
Well... good job Chipper, Kelly, Matt, and Tim...
Thanks Bobby.
this hurts...and all those runs to hudson...how cruel
speechless.....what a way to lose...Huddy was unhitable. Just...wow.
Why is this '06 Smoltz? This is '06 Tim Hudson. Why do we insist on leaving The Competitor in too long?
IN fact, I'm sure we'll win if we get to hit again. C'mon Wicky...
That's just frigging disgusting. I feel sick. What a wasted, wasted, wasted opportunity. Just so aggravating.
I can't believe this.
This loss hurts more than any I can remember right now...
nevermind, i'm lagging.
I'm officially at rock-bottom.
Yep. 8 innings, 4 ER. WHY DO WE LOVE THE COMPLETE GAME SO MUCH?!?! Put a fresh arm in, and walk away with the W. My goodness...
not a bad pitch, that should've been blocked. No reason to try and back-hand that pitch
Man, that's baseball.
Rob,
You're right this is 06'Huddy. What I meant by Smoltz is, pitched unbelievable and end up losing due to bad bullpen. Bobby should've taken Hudson out at the start of the inning and Wickman was horrible tonight.
Ugg.... It's our job to root for Hudson to get to stay in and finish the CG-SO. It's Cox's job to recognize that he's FRIGGIN TIRED and take him out, either before the inning or after the first single, or even, I don't know, after the SECOND single....
This one should have been a win, and we should be leading the division right now.
*sigh* first blown save for Wicki.
Wickman shouldn't ever have to come in with bases-loaded and no outs!
Well, Wicky ain't perfect.
What an incredibly bad time to blow your first save, but then again, Bobby just left Huddy out there too long.
I'm gonna go in a corner somewhere and cry.
we lost our first series and we continue to play .500 ball lately.
I mean, i feel like we won the game but not the outcome. 8 innings of dominance and then a ninth inning of poop
Cant blame wickman, 0 outs bases loaded, i mean, there is only so much he could have done, the only thing ithought of, was at least maybe soriano cuold have struck out the side? but thats like russian roulette with that guy too. should have never been in that spot, i mean, we all want huddy to go the whole way, but its sickening, he has been LIGHTS OUT, im just scared this effects him next start mentally
I really like Bobby Cox, and even as I was watching the game, my mom was in the room as Cox was taking Huson. I said, "Hey, that guy is one of the greatest managers of all time."
But I swear, that's a dumb decision. Pitch up, single. Pitch up, single. Take him out? No. Pitch up, single. Wow...
That inning would have been different if Chipper Jones had been standing where he is suppose to.
Damn. Just damn. That's a tough loss.
I said that Hudson was on a short leash after the lead-off single. Too bad I was dead wrong and he was allowed to stay in after throwing 110 pitches to give up two more singles.
anon @ 8:35,
I think he was covering third.
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